Analysis
of —
The
1919 Bible Conference
In
January 1994, Charles Wheeling sent out 1919 Bible Conference extracts,
in the hope that it would win many historic believers over to his
liberal view of the Spirit of Prophecy. This material has been
circulated for a number of years by new theology liberals in our church;
now it is being recommended by an Independent Ministries leader! Woe be
to those who take their stand with such men; erelong they will lose
their way and go into irretrievable deception.
When
we forsake confidence in God’s Inspired Word, we do not have much
left. There are individuals today who are trying to steal your crown.
Beware.
In
this study, we will reply to specious reasoning in this document. But we
will also take note of those statements which are correct and
well-stated. It is our prayer that this will provide you with a better
understanding of the Spirit of Prophecy, its origin, nature, and
inspiration. How thankful we can be that we have those books! They are a
wonderful blessing given us by the God of heaven.
The
packet of information which Wheeling sent out in January consisted of
four items: (1) An audiotape of a November 1993 sermon, “Do Mirrors
Ever Lie?” It was delivered to the staff of his Countdown
Ministries at its headquarters in Jemison, Alabama, amid hearty comments
of approval from his listeners. In it, Wheeling used subtle and quite
false reasoning in an effort to show that the Bible and Spirit of
Prophecy are unreliable, contain only a relatively small amount of
genuine truth, and that we should instead hope that, somehow, we can get
light directly from God. We gave a detailed, two-tract reply to that
sermon in “Wheeling’s Latest Attack on the Spirit of Prophecy”
[WM—532-533].
(2) A
copy of the Prescott Letter. That letter has been circulated widely by
liberal Adventists ever since 1980. In “The Prescott Letter”
[WM—534], not only do we reply to the three charges leveled by
Prescott in that letter, but we provide you with the historical
background of the letter, which explains why W.W. Prescott wrote it.
(3) A
copy of excerpts from the 1919 Bible Conference. An analysis of
that study will occupy much of this present tract set.
(4) A
brief two-page letter by David Dence, entitled “Shall
We Throw Out the Baby?” We will consider the essential points of
that letter at the end of this present tract set.
— PART 1 —
THE 1919 BIBLE CONFERENCE
There have been four Bible
Conferences in the history of the Seventh-day Adventist denomination.
The first was held in 1919, the second in 1952, the third in 1974, and
the fourth in 1980.
The 1919 Bible Conference
convened in Washington, D.C. from July 1 to 21 of that year. It was a
closed-door conference and was attended only by denominational Bible and
history teachers, editors, and members of the General Conference
Committee. Although a wide variety of doctrinal topics were there
discussed, in recent years excepts from just one section of that
conference have clandestinely passed from hand to hand. These are the
transcribed pages from a discussion held during an hour or so one day.
The topic was the Spirit of Prophecy.
It has been the liberals who
have circulated those pages, for they reveal that many of our leaders
did not fully believe in the Spirit of Prophecy in 1919.
Because this material continues
to circulate widely, and because one Independent Ministries leader
(Charles Wheeling) is now mailing it broadcast to historic believers in
an effort to weaken their faith in the Spirit of Prophecy, we will here
analyze this material.
In the process, we will gain a
clearer conception of how the God of heaven inspires and guides His
chosen prophet in the presentation of messages.
Throughout the portion of the
Bible Conference which we have, many of the questions were directed
toward A.G. Daniells, the General Conference president, but a variety of
comments and answers ricocheted back and forth between various others
assembled there. As a rule, they were quite guarded in what they said,
so as not to appear to disagree with the prevailing sentiments. Yet
there were those who hinted at decidedly anti-Spirit of Prophecy
concepts.
As we progress through this
analysis, it will become obvious that it was not the Spirit of Prophecy
which was on trial that day, but our leaders. So it is today; we will
all be judged by what we have done or have not done with those special
books.
The Spirit of Prophecy has not
changed nor will it change; it is as solid a counselor today to those
willing to humbly seek for a knowledge of God’s will in its pages, as
it was back in 1919. All the questions and quibblings of men will not
injure these special writings; all they hurt is themselves.
In this analysis, we will
arrange the material under several basic topics which were discussed.
The word, “Testimonies,” is used in a general sense for all
the published Spirit of Prophecy writings.
IS THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY USEFUL IN
HELPING US UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE?
1919 Bible Conference
positions:
C.L. Taylor:
“May we accept the explanations of Scripture that she gives? Are those
dependable?”
A.G. Daniells:
“Must we go to her explanations to get our meaning of the Bible? Is
that the question?”
C.L. Taylor:
“Is it right for them in their study of that [Bible] text to bring in
the Spirit of Prophecy to aid in their understanding of it or should
they leave that out of the question entirely?”
A.G. Daniells:
“We are to get our interpretation from this Book [the Bible],
primarily. I think that the Book explains itself, and I think we can
understand the Book, fundamentally through the Book, without resorting
to the Testimonies [all the Spirit of Prophecy writings] to prove it
up.”
A.G. Daniels: “It
is not our position, and it is not right that the Spirit of Prophecy is
the only safe interpreter of the Bible. That is a false doctrine, a
false view. It will not stand. Why, my friends what would all the people
have done from John’s day down to the present if there were no way to
understand the Bible except through the writings of the Spirit of
Prophecy! . . What do those people do over in Romania? We have hundreds
of Sabbathkeepers there who have not seen a book on [of] the Spirit of
Prophecy! What do those people in China do? . . He [God] gave this Book,
and He gave men brains and thinking power to study the Book.”
Our position:
Let us begin by establishing
a base point: All divinely inspired writings are equal to one another.
They are equal in origin, amount of inspiration, and accuracy. Amos is
equal to Isaiah, Mark is equal to Revelation. 2 John is equal to
Genesis.
But, of course, each one
covers different content, so their applicable usefulness will vary. Of
the above, we use Isaiah, Revelation, and Genesis far more than Amos,
Mark, or 2 John.
Yet they are equally
inspired, and therefore equally accurate.
In what way is Isaiah more
useful than Amos? It has a far wider coverage of topics.
What is the Spirit of
Prophecy? That is the name we give to the writings of E.G. White. Those
writings are a set of written materials which are as inspired as any
book in the Old or New Testament.
There is no such thing as
partial inspiration. God guides you and I by His Spirit, but He inspires
His prophets by that Spirit. There is immense difference between
guidance and inspiration.
What is the difference?
Obviously, it is accuracy of concept. You and I may and can frequently
be guided by God in what we say and write. Yet we very frequently make
mistakes. Prophets only rarely make mistakes. More on this later in this
study. Accuracy in concept—divinely given concepts—is what divine
inspiration is all about. It is not the amount of what was said or
written or the topic discussed that is pivotal here.
How does the Spirit of
Prophecy relate to the Bible prophets? Ellen White was one among many
prophets, equal to all the rest in every way but three. In three ways
she was quite different.
The first difference
was that she lived in these last days of history. None of the other
prophets did. Because of that, God could give her special counsels to
share with those living at the end of time about crucial issues to be
confronted today. For example, the Bible tells us very little about the
nature of Christ. What is said is clear enough, but it does not discuss
the matter very much. The Spirit of Prophecy discusses the subject
hundreds of times. Why? Because the nature of Christ would be a special
crisis topic in these last days.
The second difference
is that she wrote far more than any other prophet. In her published
books alone, there is about seven times as much material.
The third difference
is that she wrote about nearly every topic addressed in the Bible, plus
many more. If you question that, read Great Controversy, Education,
Evangelism, Welfare Ministry, Counsels to Parents and Teachers, Medical
Ministry, Selected Messages, the Testimonies, and many, many
more of her books. Although the principles are all in the Bible, the
specific applications and details are far wider than is to be found
anywhere in the Old or New Testaments.
Which recalls to mind
something we noted earlier: Why do we consider Isaiah to be more
important to us than Amos? because there is so much more coverage and
such wider coverage in Isaiah. Yet both books are fully inspired, and
thus a statement in Amos is just as divinely given as a statement in
Isaiah. On that basis alone, the Spirit of Prophecy ought to be
considered as of paramount importance; a much-needed addition to the
prophetic writings. Yet prophets are a reproof to sin. The Bible
prophets were hated and maligned, and so is the prophet of the last
days.
In the above-quoted
statements by our leaders at the 1919 Conference, they questioned among
themselves whether the Spirit of Prophecy could be of any valid use when
they studied the Bible. Yet, would Isaiah be of any help in studying
Amos? Of course, it would. Why? Because it is also inspired Scripture,
and it contains much, much more information than Amos. Would the Spirit
of Prophecy help us understand a text of Scripture? Of course it would.
Would there be anything wrong in using it for that purpose? Well, is
there anything wrong with using Scripture to understand Scripture? It is
all equally inspired and profitable.
The question was asked in
1919 whether the Spirit of Prophecy was “dependable”? Yes it
is,—as dependable as anything in the Bible. “Must we go to her
explanations to get our meaning of the Bible?” Well, are you required
to go to John in order to understand Matthew? No. No one is twisting
your arm and telling you that you have to, but there are many insights
in John which will help you understand Matthew better. This attitude of
“Do we have to use the Spirit of Prophecy?” is both revealing
and desolating. It reveals character and motive, and it ultimately ruins
those who adhere to it. It recalls to mind the worldlings who say, “Do
I have to study the Bible? Why can’t I go to the movies? What’s
wrong with a little dancing?” There were leaders in 1919 who had the
same attitude toward the Spirit of Prophecy: “Why do we have to use
the Spirit of Prophecy? Why do our students have to use it? Isn’t
there some way we can all get out of it and away from it?” What a
miserable religion, when people are paid to teach the Word of God to
students or church members, yet they themselves do not want to do so!
Does the Bible “explain
itself?” Of course it does. Why then use the Spirit of Prophecy to
help understand it? because it is a powerful aid in understanding the
words and will of God! Is not that a good enough reason? Why is it that
men are so afraid of those books? The reason is that they contain very
explicit guidance about sins to be put away, the urgency of putting them
away, and the help from God to put them away. All excuse for holding on
to cherished sin is removed.
“It is not right that the
Spirit of Prophecy is the only safe interpreter of the Bible,”
Daniells says. What other one is there? Yourself? Are you a safe
interpreter? That is laughable. What is a safer interpreter than part of
God’s Word, in trying to understand another part of God’s Word?
Ah, but there is another safe
interpreter of the Bible: the Holy Spirit. Will he guide you in your
study? Yes, if you are humble, desirous of knowing the truth, and
willing to be taught. How will He guide you? He will guide you as you
pray for help and compare Scripture with Scripture. Ah, but what if you
are willing to read John when you want to better understand Matthew. You
have your mind set against John. How much help will you get? What if,
knowing about the Spirit of Prophecy, you refuse its counsel. Will you
be aided as well as you might have been by the Holy Spirit?
One quibbler notes, “What
would all the people have done from John’s day down to the present, if
there were no way to understand the Bible except by the Spirit of
Prophecy?” No problem here. They did not have the Spirit of Prophecy
back then, so they were not accountable for not using it. The same goes
with millions of Christians alive today. But what about you? You and I
who know so much, will we be accountable for not using it?
So, should we use the Spirit
of Prophecy interpretation of the Bible, or should we use our own? Study
God’s Word in any way you wish, but know that when one part of the
Word is commenting on another part, you have an inspired commentary.
Should you set it aside, and instead use your own interpretation? Is
your own interpretation inspired? The Holy Spirit will try to guide you
in your study as fully as He is able, but you will not receive as much
help if you knowingly ignore inspired counsel you could make use of.
SHOULD THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY BE
USED IN REACHING NON-ADVENTISTS?
1919 Bible Conference
positions:
A.G. Daniells:
“I do not think the best kind of proof for me to give an audience on
the Sabbath question or the nature of man or baptism is to go and read
Sister White’s writings to them. I believe the best proof I can give
is the Bible.”
Our position:
Five points should be noted
here:
[1] We should not quote the
Spirit of Prophecy in support of doctrines or standards, when we are
initially working with unbelievers. All our supporting points should
come from the Bible. This position is strongly supported by the Spirit
of Prophecy.
[2] It is well to quote
inspirational statements (from Desire of Ages, etc.) in our
verbal and written studies, as supplemental inspirational comments. We
are not hereby using the Spirit of Prophecy to prove doctrine in our
Bible studies, and we are acquainting the Bible study interest with
those marvelous writings.
[3] Later in the Bible study,
the interests should be given a carefully prepared study about the
nature and importance of the Spirit of Prophecy. It should be supported
by Bible statements, and by historical and biographical data about Ellen
White.
[4] It is perfectly
acceptable to share books written by Ellen White to those not of our
faith. Such books as Great Controversy, Desire of Ages, Ministry of
Healing, Steps to Christ, etc. are excellent for this purpose. In
one passage in the Testimonies, she said to loan our copies of
the Testimonies to our neighbors.
[5] In a chapter in the book,
Evangelism (255-260) we find many Spirit of Prophecy statements
on this topic. Several of them are repeatedly quoted by liberals in an
attempt to show that Ellen White told us not to use her writings at all,
nor quote from them to anyone. But those particular statements (256-257)
are only discussing teaching our doctrines to those who have not yet
accepted our faith. We should teach them from the Bible and not use the
Spirit of Prophecy as “proof” for our positions.
Yet both before and after
those statements, are found statements urging the importance of our own
people studying the Spirit of Prophecy writings (255-260). In addition,
we are told that the Spirit of Prophecy books should be given to
unbelievers, so they can read themselves into the faith.
IS THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY AN
INFALLIBLE INTERPRETER?
1919 Bible Conference
positions:
A.G. Daniells: “I
have heard ministers say that the Spirit of Prophecy is the interpreter
of the Bible . .
J.M. Anderson: “And
he also said ‘infallible interpreter.’ ”
C.M. Sorenson:
“That expression has been canceled. That is not our position.”
A.G. Daniells:
“It is not our position.”
A.G. Daniells:
“Now on infalliblity. I suppose Sister White used Paul’s text, ‘We
have this treasure in earthen vessels,’ as much as any other
scripture. She used to repeat that often, ‘We have this treasure in
earthen vessels,’ with the idea that she was a poor, feeble woman, a
messenger of the Lord trying to do her duty and meet the mind of God in
this work.
“When you take the
position that she was not infallible, and that her writings were not
verbally inspired, isn’t there a chance for the manifestation of the
human? If there isn’t, then what is infallibility? And should we be
surprised when we know that the instrument was fallible, and that the
general truths, as she says, were revealed; then aren’t we prepared to
see mistakes?”
Our position:
There is no mystery about
infallibility. It is merely accuracy in concept. In regard to Scripture:
It is accuracy in concept, but clothed in human words.
Is Scripture accurate in its
concepts about divine truths? Think about that for a minute. You see,
all the basic acceptances or denials we apply to the Spirit of Prophecy
also apply to the Bible. That is why, when people are convinced by
liberals that they should throw out the Spirit of Prophecy, those same
people often later throw out morals, religion, and Christianity. Trying
to get rid of the Spirit of Prophecy leads one to eventually abandon the
Bible also. Both have the highest standards and the purest beliefs. It
is a dangerous thing to knowingly run away from either one.
Because of its truths, its
standards, and doctrinal teachings, the Spirit of Prophecy is judging
us; we are not judging it.
To the degree which the Bible
is infallible, the Spirit of Prophecy is also—but with one exception:
The Bible has gone through centuries of copyists and translation,
whereas, in the English-speaking world, we have the Spirit of Prophecy
exactly as it was written. For the most part it is best that we ignore
that fact. Yet it is nonetheless true. We in these last days ought to be
more thankful for the Spirit of Prophecy than we are.
Is Scripture infallible? The
modernists among us like to quote a passage in the Spirit of Prophecy (1
SM, 16) which, they say, shows that not even the Bible is
infallible. But they misquote it. The passage says that mistakes were
introduced into the text by copyists in the Dark Ages. She does not say
that the mistakes were there in the original text of the Old or New
Testament.
Men may declare that God’s
Word is not infallible, yet God’s Word says it is: God’s Word is
infallible (1 SM 416). Zwingli regarded the Scriptures as an
infallible rule (GC 173-174, 177). John Wycliffe viewed the
Scriptures as infallible (GC 89). The distinctive doctrine of
Protestantism was the infallibility of Scripture (GC 173-174, 177; SR
337). The Scriptures are an infallible revelation of God’s will
for mankind (GC 7). Surely, that should be enough statements to
settle the matter.
So the point is simple
enough: All Scripture is equally inspired; and if any of it is
infallible, all of it is infallible.
The writings of a prophet are
infallible concepts in earthen vessels.
Yet there are men among us
who do not believe this. Too bad; it is their loss, and the loss of
those they instruct in their error. Having cut loose from Scripture,
such men are very fallible. Do not think your ideas and opinions are
infallible (TM 105). No man is infallible (TM 376).
Position never renders a man infallible (9T 282).
So if infallible means
accuracy of concept, then both the Bible and Spirit of Prophecy are
accurate in their concepts of God’s will for your life. That makes
them important books, very much worth your reading time.
IS THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY VERBALLY
INSPIRED?
We can nearly agree with the
1919 position on this point.
1919 Bible Conference
position:
A.G. Daniells:
“You know, there are some brethren who go in all over. We could
mention some old and some young who think they cannot believe the
Testimonies without just putting them up as absolutely infallible and
word inspired, taking the whole thing as given verbally by the Lord.
They do not see how to believe them and how to get good out of them
except in that way; and I suppose some people would feel that if they
did not believe in the verbal inspiration of the Bible, they could not
have confidence in it.”
A.G. Daniells:
I hardly know where to begin or what to say. I think I must repeat this:
that our difficulty lies in two points, especially. One is on
infallibility and the other is on verbal inspiration. I think Brother
James White foresaw difficulties along this line away back at the
beginning. He knew that he took Sister White’s testimonies and helped
to write them out and make them clear and grammatical and plain. He knew
that he was doing that right along . . Yet he saw some brethren who did
not know this, and who had great confidence in the Testimonies, just
believing and teaching that these words were given to Sister White as
well as the thought. And he tried to correct that idea. You will find
these statements in the Review.”
A.G. Daniells:
“There is no use of our claiming anything more on the verbal
inspiration of the Testimonies, because she never claimed it, and James
White never claimed it.”
D.A. Parsons:
“She not only did not claim it, but she denied it.”
A.G. Daniels:
“Yes, she tried to correct the people.”
M.E. Kern:
“She was an author and not merely a pen.”
Our position:
We agree it is the thoughts,
not the words, that are inspired. However, this is mingled with an
erroneous view that Scripture is not infallible.
The problem is that those men
correctly recognized that concepts could be inspired, but erred
in imagining that only words could be infallible. The truth is
that it is the concepts of the prophet which are both inspired
and infallible, whereas the words of the prophet are not
necessarily inspired nor infallible.
That was why Ellen White
could write her materials, then have her secretaries work it over into
good grammatical format, then return it to her for final approval. As
long as the concepts were stated accurately, the phrasing of each
sentence was not as crucial.
Yet, although we fully agree
with the view that the prophets have concept inspiration (also called thought
inspiration) rather than each-word inspiration, yet it is remarkable
how each word in the Spirit of Prophecy has been so beautifully
selected! Every conscientious Spirit of Prophecy student recognizes
this. In most instances, the words themselves are precisely what they
ought to be. It was Ellen that initially set them down, and it was Ellen
who checked them over and redid them in their final form. Part of the
reason that some err in assuming word inspiration applies to the Spirit
of Prophecy writings is because the words have been so well selected.
Why does God work through
concept, rather than word, inspiration? Because He desires to work
through thinking people, not automated machines. Word inspiration would
be too exacting, and would overpower the human instrument in the
preparation of the manuscript. The Word comes through the flesh. There
is a mystery of incarnation, not only in Christ, the Word, but also in
the other Word: Scripture.
HOW DID HER VIEW OF CONCEPT
INSPIRATION AFFECT HER BOOK PREPARATION?
The 1919 position:
A.G. Daniells: “In
Australia I saw the Desire of Ages being made up, and, I saw the
rewriting of chapters, some of them written over and over and over
again. I saw that, and when I talked with Sister [Marian] Davis about
it, I tell you I had to square up to this thing and begin to settle
things about the Spirit of Prophecy. If these false positions [about
verbal inspiration] had never been taken, the thing would be much
plainer than it is today.”
Our position:
Ellen White received an
immense variety of important concepts from the Lord, and she labored
under an intense burden to share them with the people. Getting the
material into print was extremely important, and understandably so.
[1] In the early days, she
would write letters to individuals, and then laboriously handwrite a
copy which could later be printed as a testimony so still more could
read it.
Sometimes James would proof
her materials, with her final okay. This freed her to focus more on
output, leaving the final grammatical touch-ups to him to care for.
[2] Later, especially after
James’ death in 1881, additional helpers joined her staff. Having
several assistants helped her to greatly accelerate her production of
written materials. She would write out the material and hand it to them.
They would check it over and hand it back to her for final approval.
Marian Davis proved to be a special helper. This brilliant young woman
ransacked Ellen’s earlier writings in order to find material suitable
for inclusion in forthcoming books. For example, when Ministry of
Healing was about to be written, Ellen outlined the general chapter
topics. Then Marian set to work to locate everything she could find on
each of those chapters—from earlier writings of Ellen. She would put
it together and then present it to Ellen, who would then write the book,
using part of her earlier materials, setting some aside and adding much,
much more. Because of this,
Ellen unabashedly called Marian her “bookmaker.” It was during the
period of time when Marian was with her (Marian died in 1904 of
pneumonia) that some of the most important books were produced. Why?
because each one contained the best of Ellen’s earlier written
materials on the topics covered.
There was nothing wrong with
her having done that. Jesus taught: “Gather up the fragments that
nothing be lost.” It was excellent organization, and we should be
orderly and businesslike about our work. It was gathering up the
fragments of her earlier writings, so that none of those earlier-stated
concepts should be lost.
[3] Ellen approached
historical writings in the same manner. She had received visions of
historic events, but she had not been told when or where they had
occurred.
So she searched through
historical writings to find the events she had seen in vision. When she
found a passage in D’Aubigne or Wylie which agreed with what she had
seen, she would quote it. Frequently she would state it exactly as the
historian had, for her concern was to get the truth out. She discusses
this in the Introduction to Great Controversy. Yet by the turn of
the century, there was a concern to place such data within quotation
marks and cite the source. So, in preparation for the 1911 edition of Great
Controversy, this was done.
In those historical books she
found both concepts and events which had been given her earlier in
vision. So she placed them in her books so many more could have this
understanding made available to them.
HOW DID OUR EARLY PIONEERS GET
THEIR DOCTRINES?
1919 Bible Conference
position:
L.L. Caviness:
“Do you understand that the early believers got their understanding
from the Bible, or did it come through the Spirit of Prophecy?”
A.G. Daniells: “They got
their knowledge of the Scriptures as they went along through the
Scriptures themselves. It pains me to hear the way some people talk,
that the Spirit of Prophecy led out and gave all the instruction, all
the doctrines, to the pioneers, and they accepted them right along . .
“They searched these
scriptures together and studied and prayed over them, until they got
together on them. Sister White says in her works that for a long time
she could not understand, that her mind was locked over these things,
and the brethren worked their way along.”
Our position:
A correct understanding of
this matter is given in a passage in 1 Selected Messages.
Ellen helped formulate our
earliest doctrinal positions. Her approval repeatedly set the seal to
them. But the largest number of our doctrines were initially settled at,
what is known as, the Sabbath Conferences of 1848. Meeting,
literally, in several barns in New England, a number of pioneers,
including James and Ellen, tried to study out our fundamental beliefs
from the Bible.
The problem here was that the
Lord wants us to study, search, think, and pray for light. Yet He can
only safely give us that guidance through His prophets. But, down
through the centuries, so many errors had come into the churches that it
seemed a hopeless task for any group to attempt to obtain a correct
understanding of a variety of basic doctrines. Do you know of any group
which has? I know of only one: the 1848 conference group. The reason
they succeeded was providential. Throughout those meetings, it was clear
to all that Ellen’s mind was that year locked so that she could not
grasp their reasonings or even understand basic doctrines. As they met
together, they would go as far as they could, but each time they would
arrive at a point where they could go no further. Ellen would then, in
their presence, be taken off into vision and be shown the correct
solution. Coming out of vision, she would relate it to the rest, and
they would praise the Lord for the answer.
In this special manner the
Lord had them earnestly study the Bible, pray earnestly for the guidance
of the Holy Spirit, be given the correct solution through the Spirit of
Prophecy, and thus develop a complete system of solid truth.
Read for yourself how it
happened: 1 Selected Messages, 206-208.
IS THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY
HISTORICALLY ACCURATE?
1919 Bible Conference
position:
W.W. Prescott:
“How should we use the writings of the Spirit of Prophecy as an
authority by which to settle historical questions?”
A.G. Daniels:
Well, now, as I understand it, Sister White never claimed to be an
authority on history.”
C.A. Shull:
“Just how shall we use the Testimonies in the classroom,
especially? Before I knew there was any statement in the Spirit of
Prophecy regarding the experience of John, I stated to the class that
there was a tradition that John had been thrown into a caldron of
boiling oil, and a student immediately produced that statement in the Testimonies
that John was thrown into the boiling oil. Now, I want to know, was she
given a divine revelation that John was thrown into the boiling oil?
“Now another question, on
the taking of Babylon. Mrs. White in the Spirit of Prophecy mentions
that Babylon was taken according to the historian, by the turning aside
of the waters. Modern scholarship says it was not taken that way. What
should be our attitude in regard to such things?”
W.W. Prescott:
“I would like to ask if you think that, after his writings had been
published a series of years, Jeremiah changed them because he was
convinced that there were historical errors in them?”
M.E. Kern: “I
can not answer that.”
A.G. Daniells: “I
was called up here [to Washington Missionary College] twice to speak on
the Spirit of Prophecy to the Bible and pastoral training classes. They
brought up this question of history. I simply said, ‘No, boys, Sister
White never claimed to be a historian nor a corrector of history.’”
Our position:
Ellen White did not claim to
be a history expert, but only when we reach heaven will we learn that
she wrote the most accurate historical accounts of past history. This
was because she was shown those scenes in vision. Why will we not have
certainty of her historical accuracy before then? The answer is simple
enough: The historians cannot agree on all kinds of historical points.
So we have no human norm by which to verify that which she wrote as the
best history ever written.
Two points should be noted
here:
First, historical and
archaeological discoveries may appear to disprove her writings, but, in
reality, they will not. Her historical statements are correct; the
discoveries may be in error. For a detailed study into the mammoth fake
which modern archaeology has become since the late 1930s, in regard to
dating, read the present writer’s chapter on Archaeology” in his
book, Other Evidence Against Evolution.
Second, Ellen White was not
shown dates. This is why she had to search through the history books in
order to locate some sequences. You will find few dates in Great
Controversy. The events and concepts in that book are accurate, but
some dates could be a year or two off.
WAS THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY
DOCTRINALLY ACCURATE?
1919 Bible Conference
position:
Several nebulous charges are
leveled against the Spirit of Prophecy, to the effect that others wrote
her doctrinal statements.
Our position:
Ellen White was always in
command of what went into her books, articles, letters, and other
publications. She recognized her responsibility and did not shirk it.
That is why God initially called her to the prophetic office. He knew
she would remain faithful, and she did.
In vision, she received
inspirational, doctrinal, and historical information. Most of the time,
she wrote it out when the circumstances directed or as the Holy Spirit
prompted her to do so. But, in some instances, she came across doctrinal
sentences or paragraphs penned by others which were fairly clear
statements. These she used as is, or modified in order to produce
doctrinal accuracy. In certain portions of Great Controversy, it
was discovered that additional, specific doctrinal statements were
needed. She either produced this herself or statements by Uriah Smith,
J.N. Andrews, and others were brought to her, which she then used as a
basis for additional paragraphs.
Yet, throughout this, Ellen
White was systematically doing that work which she had been called to
do: place the concepts given her of Heaven into printed form for the
people to read and benefit from.
SHOULD THE PHYSICAL EVIDENCES BE
MENTIONED?
1919 Bible Conference
position:
C.L. Taylor: “In your talk
a few evenings ago, I agreed 100 percent in everything you said. Today
there is just one question in my mind.”
A.G. Daniells:
“Let us have it.”
C.L. Taylor:
“That is regarding those outward manifestations, those things of
perhaps a miraculous nature. I do not know whether you intend to carry
the impression that you discredit those or that you simply would not
teach them. If it is that you would not hold them up as proof that the
work is inspired, I am heartily in agreement with that. On the other
hand, if you take the position that those things are not to be relied
on, that Elder Loughborough and others are mistaken about these things,
I should have to disagree with you.”
A.G. Daniells:
“No, I do not discount them nor disbelieve them; but they are not the
kind of evidence I would use with students or with unbelievers.”
Our position:
As the present writer was
preparing the biography of Ellen White, for his book, Prophet of the
End, it became quite obvious why Heaven gave the physical evidences
when it did. Ellen had just been called to the prophetic office, and the
primary new light she had been given consisted of views of heaven and
reproofs of fanatics. But the people had the physical evidences. As she
traveled about during those first few months and years, physical
evidences were repeatedly given which convinced people she was a
spokesperson for God. She was taken off in vision in public and did not
breathe for a half hour or more. On more than one occasion, she held
heavy Bibles at arm’s length while pointing to texts she was not
looking at.
These evidences were
powerful, even astounding. And they were given by the God of heaven to
convince us that this was His chosen prophet in these last days. Notice
that they were given to those unacquainted with the Spirit of Prophecy
writings. In later years, as a repertoire of those writings increased,
most of the visions were given to her at night.
When we initially introduce
the Spirit of Prophecy today, it is well that we also tell about her
life, the fruits of her work, and those early physical evidences. Later,
as these people read themselves into confidence in those sacred
writings, they will no longer need the physical evidences to help arouse
and sustain their faith.
Why is it that men are so
anxious to place everything about the Spirit of Prophecy in the shade,
where it will not be noticed—and more easily neglected?
Looking back at the Early
Church, we find the same pattern of striking physical evidences given at
the time that the church was just getting started. (Read the first
chapters in the book of Acts.)
It is for this reason that the
present writer has openly stated several times that if anyone wishes to
arise in our ranks and claim to be an inspired prophet for these last
days, we should expect to be able—on many occasions—to see that
prophet receiving visions, without breath, for an hour or two. If the
physical evidences are lacking, the claim of the so-called prophet are
invalid.
But this does not happen. Of the
dozen or so prophets which arise each year, none of them show the
physical evidences. They are all careful to have their “visions” in
private, when no one is around.
ARE THE DIETARY COUNSELS
WORTHWHILE?
1919 Bible Conference
position:
W.G. Wirth: “Now as to
health reform: Frequently a student will come to me and quote what
Sister White says about butter. But we serve butter on our tables right
along. And they will bring up about meat, how under no consideration is
that to be eaten. And I know that that is unreasonable . . I would like
a little light on some of those details, as to whether we ought to take
them at face value.”
A.G. Daniells: “The
instructions set forth in the Testimonies was [sic.] never intended to
be one great wholesale blanket regulation for peoples’ eating and
drinking, and it applies to various individuals according to their
physical condition and according to the situation in which they find
themselves . . [He then tells story of a man up in Hammerfest, Norway,
who was not eating much, because there was not much to eat, other than
meat and starch] When I got back to this country, I talked with Sister
White about it, and she said, ‘Why don’t the people use common
sense?’”
Our position:
We ourselves fully believe in
dietetic reform. But we must recognize that there are some places in the
world—especially near the poles or in the middle of large desert
areas—where it might be difficult to obtain a nourishing diet of
fruits, vegetables, and the nut foods. It is also true that there are
some Spirit of Prophecy dietetic statements which may apply to some
individuals more than to others. In general, it is well for each of us
to seek to do the best we can, in our location with our individual
physical condition. Admittedly, there are those who are extremists and
eat hardly anything of anything, when they are physically able to eat
more. But there are also those who disregard the health reform almost
entirely, and erelong they suffer for having done so.
There is wisdom in none of us
uninspired people setting himself up as the great standard of dietetic
reform.
WHAT WAS ELLEN WHITE’S RELATION
TO BIBLE TRANSLATIONS?
1919 Bible Conference
position:
W.G. Wirth: “Suppose we do
have a conflict between the authorized and revised versions?”
A.G. Daniells: “That
question was up before. You must not count me an authority, for I am
just like you in the matter. I have to form my own opinions. I do not
think Sister White meant at all to establish the certainty of a
translation. I do not think she had that in mind, or had anything to do
with putting her seal of approval on the authorized version or on the
revised version when she quoted that. She used whichever version helps
to bring out the thought she has most clearly.”
Our position:
There were several versions
in Ellen White’s day, but she consistently used the Authorized (King
James) Version far more than any other one. That is revealing.
But it is also true that
Ellen did use other versions. Daniells’ last sentence, quoted above,
appears correct. However, I am sure she would not use the modernist
versions so widely in use today!
“Satan is . . constantly pressing in the
spurious—to lead away from the truth. The very last deception of Satan
will be to make of none effect the testimony of the Spirit of God.”—1
Selected Messages, 48.
If you could read the entire 1919 Bible Conference
transcript, you would be impressed with the cautious respect shown to
President A.G. Daniells by everyone. It was his opinion which was nearly
always sought, and his opinion was generally the last word, prior to
passing onto another point.
Yet,
beneath the surface, there were many who wanted to oust Elder Daniells.
(As you may know, he was our longest-running General Conference
president, having served since 1901.) The moment came in the San
Francisco General Conference Session of 1922. Daniells’ men tried hard
to get him re-elected, but W.A. Spicer, without seeking the office,
became the new president. Daniells’ retirement proved a blessing to
him, for he rediscovered the value of the Spirit of Prophecy, as he
researched and wrote the book, Christ Our Righteousness. It was
written by a true believer in the prophet of these last days.
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